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Last post 09-17-2009 10:09 PM by sharonintexas. 20 replies.
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  • 09-09-2009 3:15 PM In reply to

    • Brandy
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    Re: To Homeschool or Not to Homeschool...that is the question

    Kabin,

    How are things standing as of now?

     

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  • 09-13-2009 12:19 AM In reply to

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    Wow! Falcon, Thanks for taking the time to explain all of that. I have no idea exactly where she is weak, but some areas were lower, just not low enough to qualify for services. Fortunately she has a boy frined that excels in math and can help her with it, if he has time. She is a sophmore in HS, but he is a freshman in college and going into computer science as well. So he does have a full schedule for classes.

    Another thing is that everything came to a head in the last few days. She is now seeing a therapist for anxiety and depression and started taking an antidepressent to help her with her the stress she feels about school. She was diagnosed with anxiety when she was younger and this should help in that area. She will return to regular school this week and hopefully, with help from her bf and other frineds, she will make it through the year. Still, she has not passed math since the 6th grade and I don't know if it's anxiety and depression related altogether, or if she might have an ld, but that is something I am going to watch for, once again. She is a strong reader and reads at college levels, so I know she is fine there,

    Thanks again for taking the time to explain.,

    Kathy

  • 09-13-2009 12:22 AM In reply to

    Re: To Homeschool or Not to Homeschool...that is the question

    Brandy,

    she is going back to her old school Monday. I am worried as she is already way behind, but hopefully she will, with the help of frineds, be able to catch up and pass her classes this year. Thanks for asking.

  • 09-13-2009 8:47 AM In reply to

    • Brandy
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    Re: To Homeschool or Not to Homeschool...that is the question

    kabin:
    I am worried as she is already way behind, but hopefully she will, with the help of frineds, be able to catch up and pass her classes this year.

    I hope she does well. Let us know, please.

     

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  • 09-15-2009 8:19 AM In reply to

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    Re: To Homeschool or Not to Homeschool...that is the question

     

  • 09-15-2009 8:39 AM In reply to

    • LoriB
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    Re: To Homeschool or Not to Homeschool...that is the question

    Good Morning~ 

    Here are a couple of books and articles I've found useful in my preparation for homeschooling our son:

    Sandra Dodd's website (article on Boredom is very interesting)

    Grace Llewellyn (esp. Guerilla Learning and The Teenage Liberation Handbook)

    after reading the above books, I would recommend reading about Jen Smith at MillionaireMommyNextDoor.com   (under the tab My Story and then How I Became a Millionaire) Her story ties it all together in real life.

    Good Luck :-)

    LoriB

     

  • 09-16-2009 12:36 PM In reply to

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    by all means, try homeschooling. You do not have to pay for your curriculum. Google free homeschool curriculum for a start. There are also lots of homeschoolers who sell or trade used materials. The internet is a great source of the core subjects.

     The stress of school could be causing part of her anxiety problems. My son was hs'd from 2nd to 5th grade and then entered a private school. He was way ahead of the other kids in readingand oher subjects. He is a very independent learner to this day due to the homeschooling. I agree that it would do no harm to try.,

     You need to go to your state's Education web site to see what steps you need to take to do this. In my state all you have to do is notify them, tell them what curriculum you are using (it can be vague) and either register as a private school (where you have no more obligations to the state) or give a standardized test once and year and submit scores with the next years notification of homeschooling. It is very easy in most states

    You can also contact your local homeschooling organization, although sometimes you may not agree with their requirement to join, they are more than willing to give advice and help.

    Pam

  • 09-16-2009 3:26 PM In reply to

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    This is a child you have had problems with since 4th grade and you say you don't know how to help her. How can you possibly help her by homeschooling, especially if her father does not support you in this? You need outside help. You can't do this on your own. Contact your social service resources to see what help is available for a child who has a psychiatric disorder and you are unable to get her to take the needed medications. In case I sound negative, I strongly support homeschooling for parents and children who are dedicated to working well together. I homeschooled my youngest child one year. It was both the best and the worst experience. It was very hard for me because I was working long hours. It was hard for her because of the isolation. I knew how to help her as I had worked with the curriculum as a volunteer in a private school she had attended. Homeschooling is not for everyone, and it is not a panacea for learning and behavior problems.
  • 09-16-2009 5:22 PM In reply to

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    I have always done "mommy work" with my kids in different areas where they need extra help and I have even asked the teachers of the years if they have extra papers that they are using in class to do at home.   You can pick up the grade level math books that kids do over the summer and work with your daughter there at home to get her understanding up. 

    I would make an appointment with your daughter's teachers so everyone is on the same page and have the missed work sent home so the two of you can sit down and work on it over the next week or two.  

    I am assuming your daughter has an IEP for her disablility and if she doesn't you need to contact the Principal and get one in place so everyone understands her disability and she is getting the extra help she needs in school.  

    Roberta

  • 09-17-2009 11:00 AM In reply to

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    Before you add homeschooling to your toolbox, I'm afraid you need to help your daughter address some very very serious psychological, behavioral, and learning disability issues. Although the school may have refused services in the 4th grade, more than 3 years have passed and you have a right to demand the school retest her. The level of services she is entitled to receive varies from state to state, but there is a minimal level of special educational services all children are entitled to which is mandated by FEDERAL law and it sounds like your child is functioning far below that threshold. She needs to be retested.

    Think of it this way. In two years, your child is theoretically supposed to be capable of graduating high school, getting a job (or head off to college), managing a budget, moving into her own apartment (or dorm), and generally start supporting herself. Teaching these skills is supposed to be divided between parents and the schools. Once she turns 18, nobody (no government agency, private person, or charity) is going to help her. No employer is going to care that she can't perform her job because she's "anxious," they're just going to fire her. Landlords aren't going to let her live for free because she's too "anxious" to get a job and pay her rent. They'll just evict her. Supermarkets aren't going to give her food because she's too "anxious" to get a job. They'll just let her starve to death. Government will just wash their hands of her ... once she turns 18 she's on her own. Without dependent children, they won't even let her apply for welfare. Charities aren't going to expend their meager resources to help somebody who's young, able-bodied and healthy when they've got families with small children lining up for help. Your relatives will quickly tire of financially supporting an able-bodied relative too "anxious" to survive on her own and show her the door. If you and your husband get in a car crash and die tomorrow, are you confident you've prepared her to survive on her own?

    Many schools are really sneaky about denying children services because SpEd costs a lot more money than mainstream ed. Schools are not obligated to inform parents about many of the services they have which children may be entitled to receive, you need to specifically request them, and even then you may need to fight to get them to provide them. Schools are also really recalcitrant about helping 16 year olds' as it's cheaper for them to just discourage her from going to school and quit and wash their hands of her. Therefore, before you go to the school, I strongly recommend you call your state Department of Education and find out who runs your schools Special Education Parent Advisory Council (PAC) or similar parent-run SpEd advocacy group. Every school is supposed to have one, though they differ in how active they are. PACs usually meet once per month during the school year and the parents who've successfully navigated the "system" help teach other parents the ins and outs of working with your school. You'll learn more from them about how sneaky your school is and what it takes to get them to help your daughter than the school will ever voluntarily tell you on their own.

    Secondly, it's advisable that BEFORE you go to your school seeking special education services, that you have your daughter evaluated by her physician and referred/evaluated a second time by a PRIVATE specialist (such as a psychologist, psychiatrist, ADHD specialist, etc.). Get a letter from them stating they have evaluated your child and diagnosed them with "X" disorder, and stating what services they believe your child needs. Do this BEFORE the school evaluates her ... it puts them on notice you are serious about holding their feet to the fire and makes them slightly less likely to simply blow off your concerns.

    Third, there are very specific procedures and timelines/deadlines you need to follow to the letter of the law in order to request these services. Your local Parent Advisory Council (PAC) and state Department of Education may be able to help you get a checklist of what procedures you need to follow to navigate services. If you miss a deadline or don't follow the correct procedure, the school can deny your daughter services, so it's critical you learn how to navigate the maze. Rule number one is to always get everything in writing. Rule number two is to always bring an advocate (often another PAC parent more familiar with the process) with you to all meetings. Rule number three is to meet all sneaky deadlines. Rule number four is to always be polite and reasonable with the school, but firmly let them know you know what your rights are and mean business (in other words, wag your tail, but don't be afraid to bare your teeth and growl if tail-wagging doesn't work).

    Last, you've only got two years left of regular education before your kid gets shown the door and is no longer eligible for services (though if she's flunked grades you may be able to get an extension until she graduates). The school needs to do the primary job of getting your child caught up, so DO NOT offer to homeschool and let them foist off their legal responsibility to your child. Don't even let them know you've ever even CONSIDERED homeschooling or they'll try to pull a fast one and evade helping her. HOWEVER ... it's a good idea to secretly pick the brains of the homeschoolers and use whatever tools they recommend to help your daughter catch up. This job is too big for you to handle alone, but there's no reason why you can't use homeschooling techniques to make sure she doesn't backslide on weekends, holidays, and vacation periods and also to supplement any natural deficits in your schools curriculum.

    Many states also have varying degrees of SpEd training programs and/or advocacy services available free of charge or at very low cost if the school is still being recalcitrant. I strongly recommend you find out what is available and educate yourself very quickly. There's not much time left before your child will be too old to get help and, after that, it will all come out of your own pocket. Good luck!
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