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Last post 04-05-2009 8:39 AM by Deborahmichelle. 7 replies.
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  • 03-28-2009 6:29 PM

    • Kim_150
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    Deborahmichelle- info for you!

    A while back there was a discussion about marketing, and you'd expressed some frustration at companies not making it clear which products are kosher or vegan. I think this site I found might help!

    http://www.vegcooking.com/guide.asp - over on the right is a list of grocery categories, and at each link they've researched and listed brand names and products that are vegan. You'd have to find the product and check the label to see whether it's been certified by a Kosher association, but these lists might be helpful anyhow.

  • 03-29-2009 9:10 AM In reply to

    Re: Deborahmichelle- info for you!

    Dear Kiim, THANK YOU!  The site is so thorough!  I'd been using the lists in VEGETARIAN JOURNAL (also vegan), but they are not nearly as extensive.  The site that yoo sent me to is sponsored by PETA, an activissst organization that has committed arson at the sites where scientssts have done experiments on priimates & other aniimals, SO I frankly loaathe them.  BUT, I'll have to think over whether I can ethically use their list.

    I will & do buy anything vegan.  That is because there can't possibly be any milk or millk derivatives, or meat or meat derivaatives, making the product inherently pareve (neither milllk nor meat), tehreeefore something that you can eat at any meal (except during Pesach/Passover), maintaining Kashrut/the state of being Kosher.  Fortunately, my market, Whole Foods,already labels many vegan foods as such,& is actually beginning a campaign to label EVERYTHING vegan as such.

    Thank you again, ever so much, Kim!  Yours in Him, Deb

     

    Proud trainer of Heart, a black female Miniature Poodle, as a Psychiatric Service Dog

    Enter His gates with thanksgiving, His courts with praise; give thanks to Him, bless His Name. (Psalm 100)

    Yours in thrift, Deb


    Officially Recognized Stretchpert in Government & Charity Assistance, Kosher Living and Prayer Circle

  • 03-29-2009 12:42 PM In reply to

    Re: Deborahmichelle- info for you!

     on PETA:

     while members of the organization may commit crimes, they are not planned by PETA.

    Like the boy in synogogue who shoplifts, it does not mean all boys, or all Jews, will steal.

    Much of the negative "press" on PETA is authored and sourced by a meat/alcohol/tobacco lobbyist Rick Berman operating under the name the Center for Consumer Freedom.

    from Sourcewatch, a group that monitors where right wing groups get their funding, and who they really are:

     The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the "Guest Choice Network") is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and tobacco industries. It runs media campaigns which oppose the efforts of scientists, doctors, health advocates, environmentalists and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, calling them "the Nanny Culture -- the growing fraternity of food cops, health care enforcers, anti-meat activists, and meddling bureaucrats who 'know what's best for you.' "

    Over 40 percent of the group's 2005 expenditure was paid to Rick Berman's PR company, Berman & Co. for "management services. [1] As part of its operations CCF runs a series of attack websites, including "consumerfreedom.com, activistcash.com, cspiscam.com, animal-scam.com, fishscam.com, obesitymyths.com, physiciansscam.com [and] PetaKillsAnimals.com. [2]

     

    Does this mean PETA is shining stellar? Nope.

    But I have learned zealots get things done, and a lot of people intern or donate their time to reserching animal ingredients for PETA. 

    They are pretty good about updates, and aside from outbreaks of Vegan Wars (my list is better than your list because I include manufactured on equipment that handles dairy, etc)  PETA is a good baseline. I prefer to locate other lists, but they will do in a pinch.

     

    On Vegan=Parve:

    all vegan foods could be certified parve by a vad. Not all parve foods are vegan (eggs, honey, fish gelatin, additives from animal sources such as vitamin D3.

    according to the Vegan Society: Fortified vegan products contain D2 (ergocalciferol). Foods with naturally occurring vitamin D are, however, usually animal derived containing the vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol).

     

    So, all Priuses are cars. Not all cars are Priuses.

     

  • 03-29-2009 1:00 PM In reply to

    Re: Deborahmichelle- info for you!

    Dear Truepeacenik, You are absolutely right that alll vegan foods are Kosher pareve.  That is why I feel free to eat them.

    You are absollutely right that there is also a wide range of foods that ARE pareve but that ARE NOT vegan.

    No disssent there.

    As to the rest of your post, let's not get political, it doesn't really belong on this Forum.  If my posst sounded political to anyone, including you, I apologize.  Thanks for understanding.  Love in Him, Deb

    Proud trainer of Heart, a black female Miniature Poodle, as a Psychiatric Service Dog

    Enter His gates with thanksgiving, His courts with praise; give thanks to Him, bless His Name. (Psalm 100)

    Yours in thrift, Deb


    Officially Recognized Stretchpert in Government & Charity Assistance, Kosher Living and Prayer Circle

  • 03-29-2009 3:45 PM In reply to

    Re: Deborahmichelle- info for you!

     oops. I meant only to point out that a lot of the anti-PETA stuff is industry-led.

    Sorry.

     

  • 03-29-2009 6:05 PM In reply to

    Re: Deborahmichelle- info for you!

    Yes, Truepeacenik, there are lobbyists all over, as we know from our Federal budget's "pork."  Love in Him, Deb

    Proud trainer of Heart, a black female Miniature Poodle, as a Psychiatric Service Dog

    Enter His gates with thanksgiving, His courts with praise; give thanks to Him, bless His Name. (Psalm 100)

    Yours in thrift, Deb


    Officially Recognized Stretchpert in Government & Charity Assistance, Kosher Living and Prayer Circle

  • 04-02-2009 8:45 PM In reply to

    Re: Deborahmichelle- info for you!

     and that's just not kosher Wink

  • 04-05-2009 8:39 AM In reply to

    Re: Deborahmichelle- info for you!

    Daer Truepeacenik, Just as the Good L-rd hsa blessed my Darling brother with an ever-blossoming sense of humor, He seems to ahve given you some of the same!  It's a great gift!  Lovein Him, Deb

    Proud trainer of Heart, a black female Miniature Poodle, as a Psychiatric Service Dog

    Enter His gates with thanksgiving, His courts with praise; give thanks to Him, bless His Name. (Psalm 100)

    Yours in thrift, Deb


    Officially Recognized Stretchpert in Government & Charity Assistance, Kosher Living and Prayer Circle

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